Tuesday, May 17, 2005

Oil for Food...HAH!

Is this part of the March to Democracy? I guess you could cynically rationalize this as assisting the Iraqi people, even though everyone knew that Saddam was pocketing the proceeds with the Iraqi people still hanging off the shit end of the stick. I put this in the same category as Halliburton (then headed by Dick Cheney) subsidiaries doing business with Saddam Hussein at the height of sanctions. It is a stark reminder of the hypocritical nature of the thing our government has involved us in. It also leaves me questioning even more why we went to war. What was the real reason? First we facilitate the machinations of Saddam, going back decades, making major bucks off him. Then we whack him for invading our ally, then we make more billions of dollars off him. Then we whack him again, for good, for . . . what? The inspectors were doing the job, so it wasn't as though he wouldn't let them back in, he didn't have WMD and they basically knew that before the trigger was pulled, and he wasn't part of the 9/11 plot. So what was the real reason?


Blogger Don said...

Tag, yer it.

5:23 PM  
Blogger Mark said...

"presents documentary evidence that the Bush administration was made aware of illegal oil sales and kickbacks paid to the Saddam Hussein regime but did nothing to stop them."

You mean, nothing like sending the US military in to remove this corrupt piece of shit from power? The day after Memorial Day I'm sure the families of those killed in Iraq would love to hear that they did nothing to stop this, and much more egregious crimes perpetrated by Hussein. Gimme a break.

5:12 AM  
Blogger Harry said...

Sure, they went in to remove him from power after they'd made plenty of money doing business with him while telling the rest of the world they weren't allowed to. Now, after US businesses took part in the oil for food scandal and made serious money, they're trying to blame the whole thing on Annan and his kid. I do wonder how some of these families feel with Dick Cheney running around with his apocalyptic rhetoric after having done business with this corrupt piece of shit? Go out and ask how some of them feel. Some will undoubtedly feel that they lost their loved one in defense of freedom, or for in order to secure some alleged future. Others may feel their loved one was taken from them for a lie, for something that no one can foresee.

9:04 AM  
Blogger Harry said...

One other thing. The "corrupt" argumet doesn't cover the whole question with Saddam. There are others in this world who are as corrupt, still, as Saddam was before we knocked him off. Why him and not Kim Jung Il, or Robert Mugabe? Why not the brute who runs Uzbekistan? These guys are very bit as bad, yet we do nothing. My point being, there was very little about the motives for this war that had anything to do with punishing Saddam because he was a corrupt piece of shit.

9:16 AM  
Blogger Mark said...

The inspectors were doing the job, so it wasn't as though he wouldn't let them back in,

Actually, no he wouldn't have let them back in, IMHO, he kicked them out, why would he welcome them back? But more to the point, this is a statement that the left oft repeats, but can't possibly be made with impunity (unless your Saddam and your credibility is intact).

As far as WMD's go, there weren't, there were and they were moved to Syria, take your pick. There's been no solid evidence, really, one way or the other. Let's face it, if it could be proved beyond a shadow of a doubt, the Dems would have impeached Bush already. Hell, we've been talking about it since the first election, this would be the surefire nail in the coffin. Besides, all of those mass graves are full of victims of WMD's (the Kurds) and countless other methods of slaugfhter. But I guess a few chemical warheads that off a bunch of no 'count Kurds don't match the Left's convenient definition of WMD's, just like Saddam's payoffs to "Palestinian" suicide bombers' families don't count as support for terrorism. But WTF do I know? I'm glad the Left has it all figured out for the rest of us morons.

6:05 PM  
Blogger Harry said...

The inspectors were there when Bush decided to go over the line. they left because there was no point in continuing when a war was about to start. They were planing on expanding nuclear inspections as late as February. Here's a link.


Read it through and you'll see that the case was still dubious even that late.

As for impeachment, read up on the process. There's no way a republican president is getting impeached by a republican congress.

The left hasn't got a whole lot figured out. I speak for myself. Others may agree. There was no convincing reason for this war. Talk all you want about all the horrible things Saddam did, and you'll find others have done equally horrible things. The main thing is, Bush lied through his teeth the whole damn time. That makes me question the motivation.

9:04 AM  
Blogger Mark said...


I'm sure the Left has a very logical explanation as to why the UN admitting that all this stuff was moved (although they don't know to where) still means there were no WMD's.

6:52 PM  

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